Can one take part in the Lord’s Table/Communion without taking Baptism?

Can one take part in the Lord’s Table/Communion without taking Baptism?

బాప్టిజం తీసుకోకుండా ప్రభు భల్లలో పాల్గొనవచ్ఛా?

A Letter to my mother (Sister Jayalakshmi) about my blood Brother Sudeep:

రక్తం ద్వారా నా సోదరుడు సుదీప్ నిమిత్తం నా తల్లి (సోదరి జయలక్ష్మి) కి ఒక ఉత్తరం:

John 13:10a :-

‘Jesus said to him, “He who has bathed (baptized — taken a full cleansing as a full sinner) needs only to wash his feet (to clean the FEW sins accumulated since the last cleansing), but is completely clean.”‘

యోహాను సువార్త 13:10a

‘యేసు అతని చూచి స్నానముచేసినవాడు (బాప్టిజం – పూర్తి పాపిగా, పూర్తి శుదీకరణ తీసుకున్నావాడు) పాదములు తప్ప (గత శుద్ధీకరణ నుండి సేకరించిన కొన్ని పాపాలను శుభ్రం చేయడానికి) మరేమియు కడుగు కొన నక్కరలేదు, అతడు పవిత్రుడు.’

1 Corinthians 11:27-29 :-

“Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgement to himself if he does not judge the body rightly.”

1 కొరింథీయులకు 11:27-29

“కాబట్టి యెవడు అయోగ్యముగా ప్రభువు యొక్క రొట్టెను తినునో, లేక ఆయన పాత్రలోనిది త్రాగునో, వాడు ప్రభువుయొక్క శరీరమును గూర్చియు రక్తమును గూర్చియు అపరాధియగును. కాబట్టి ప్రతి మనుష్యుడు తన్ను తాను పరీక్షించుకొనవలెను; ఆలాగుచేసి ఆ రొట్టెను తిని, ఆ పాత్రలోనిది త్రాగవలెను.

ప్రభువు శరీరమని వివేచింపక తిని త్రాగువాడు తనకు శిక్షావిధి కలుగుటకే తిని త్రాగుచున్నాడు.”

 

Because you are a biased person, in your eyes, your son, Sudeep, is a holy cleansed person without taking Baptism.

నీవు పక్షపాతి కాబట్టి, నీదృష్టిలో నీ కొడుకు (సుదీప్) బాప్టిజం తీసుకోకుండానే శుద్ధి చేయబడియున్నవాడే (పరిశుధుడు) అనుకుంటున్నావు.

1 Peter 3:21 :-

“Baptism SAVES – it is not the removal of dirt [but rather of sin and] a pledge of a good conscience — through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.”

1 పేతురు 3:21 :-

“సాదృశ్యమైన బాప్తిస్మము ఇప్పుడు మిమ్మును రక్షించు చున్నది; అదేదనగా శరీరమాలిన్యము తీసివేయుట కాదు గాని [పాపం కడగడం] యేసుక్రీస్తు పునరుత్థాన మూలముగా దేవుని విష యము నిర్మలమైన మనస్సాక్షినిచ్చు ప్రత్యుత్తరమే.”

 

It is a testimony to the world that you now no longer belong to sin but to Jesus. It also serves as a metaphorical memory device of a cleansing that took place at a point in time to stay committed to holy living and to Jesus during fiery trials that will come upon us after the cleansing just as it did the Lord Jesus Christ. Matthew 4:1 (Then [after Baptism] Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.)

 

మీరు ఇప్పుడు ఇకపై పాపములకు చెందిన వాళు కాదు అని ప్రపంచానికి అది సాక్ష్యంగా ఉంది. ఇది పవిత్ర జీవన కట్టుబడి ఉండడానికి ఒక సమయంలో శుదీకరణ జరిగిందిఅని మనకి గుర్తుగా ఉంటుంది. అది ప్రభు యేసు క్రీస్తుకు మరియు పవిత్ర జీవనకు కట్టుబడి ఉండడానికి ఉపయోగించబడుతుంది. ఈ శుదీకరణ తర్వాత మనమీద వచ్చే ఆ మండుతున్న పరీక్షలు గుండా వెళ్ళవలసినప్పుడు సమయంలో ఇది ఒక శుద్ధీకరణ మెమరీ పరికరంగా పనిచేస్తుంది. (మత్తయి సువార్త 4:1 – అప్పుడు [బాప్టిజం తర్వాత] యేసు అపవాదిచేత శోధింపబడుటకు ఆత్మ వలన అరణ్యమునకు కొనిపోబడెను.)

Therefore, it is clear that taking part in the Lord’s Table/Communion in an unworthy manner is dangerous. That’s not all! “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it wouldbe better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea” (Matt18:6).

అందువలన, ప్రభు భల్లలో అయోగ్యముగా పాల్గొనడం ప్రమాదకరం అని స్పష్టం అవుతుంది.

అదొక్కటే కాదు.

“నాయందు విశ్వాసముంచు ఈ చిన్న వారిలో ఒకనిని అభ్యంతరపరచువాడెవడో, వాడు మెడకు పెద్ద తిరుగటిరాయి కట్టబడినవాడై మిక్కిలి లోతైన సముద్ర ములో ముంచి వేయబడుట వానికి మేలు” (మత్తయి సువార్త 18:6).

May God bless you!

దేవుడు నిన్ను దీవించునుగాక!

Your elder son, brother, and Servant of God,

Caleb Suresh Motupalli

మీ పెద్ద కుమారుడు, సోదరుడు, దేవుని సేవకుడు,

కాలేబ్ సురేష్ మోట్టుపల్లి

“Wife beating”

 

“For the moment ALL discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it” (Heb12:11).

Let us not stick American feminism in here, which has been demoted as the Abomination of Desolation. We LOVE our wives so much that we will go to the extent of beating the hell out of them–not divorce them like so called “Christian” Americans do–if they go out of line, in keeping with scripture (1Cor9:27NIV)!

I believe, my wife would rather have me beat her than divorce her!

Unless you are spiritual (i.e. not a Biblicist/legalist/literalist) you are NOT in a capacity to see this verse (1Cor9:27) for what it means.

We love our wives and administer discipline like the head of the household (1Cor11:3), even as her spiritual father (Isa9:6). If you still want to remain contentious and indeed there are some of you who are, answer me: Am i not my brother’s keeper?

In view of the smearing of the Most High Himself that is going on (cf. Jn12:6), we are placing our own dignity on line here. But we are not ashamed of the Truth nor of stating it! He who does not acknowledge these truths as being self-evident are outsiders to the family of God.

 

cf.: 1 Corinthians 4:15

 

cf. Matthew 23:9; John 20:17

Abba (יהוה/God/الله/ईश्वर) Akbar!

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Microcosm & Marriage

Question: Muslim, Why Is One Woman Not Enough?

First off: 

Saved Noah’s family == Minimum Church.

Therefore:

 

Deut17:17; Matt18:19-20; Teeth; 1Tim2:12; 1Pet3:7; 1Cor7:9;

Acts of Lord Venkateswara & Surely don’t want to go there.

Cf. Matt7:21-24; Jn13:17; Jam1:22; Rom2:1-16

Paul Stands Corrected

On the other hand, the inflexible strict (1Cor13:3; cf. 1Cor9:5) legislation by Paul imposed on both the overseer (1Cor7:7; 1Tim3:2) and the deacon (1Tim3:12) of the Church is hereby overturned based on its undeniable failure. Let alone failed marriages and failed priesthoods, many Christians can tell how they lost a job, were fired, failed to get a promotion, were ousted and ostracized because of the character assassination which was in some way tethered to their faith, as defined by Paul.

If truth (which here is holiness) is in anyway exaggerated it losses its power and is thrown out altogether as a lie. 

Note:

The above formula by Lord Jesus Christ is only for the mortal body, for the Father has riches-unspeakable on the other side of reality.

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Abomination of Desolation & Fleeing out of Judea/Praise/Protestant/USA

Proposition:

The world has just seen “standing in the holy place, the abomination that causes desolation” (Matt24:15NIV). Is this speaking of a desolation caused by God’s wrath on His own Vineyard? I do believe, the New World == Kingdom of Heaven == the Lord’s Vineyard (rhema from Matt20:1).

The same-sex trash we see these days is an abomination (Lev18:22) but it is merely covering-fire for something more basic to pass easily.

But when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing [for presidential election of world leadership] where it SHE should not be (let the reader understand ), then those who are in Judea (i.e. America, because she is defined by PRAISE) must flee to the mountains (Mark13:14, targum Caleb).

Timeline of Significant events:

First off, Liberalism == Lawlessness. This article is very telling that there are no real limits to liberalism, which is lawlessness (sans anything absolute).

  1. Bill Clinton == “man of lawlessness, the son of destruction” of 2Thess 2:3, revealed.
  2. The office of Barack Obama fulfills 2Thess2:4 by setting POTUS above the Vatican by swaying the outcome of the Papal election in 2013.
  3. The symbol & pride of lawlessness, a feminist, flexes her muscle and is “standing” to be elected as POTUS == abomination that causes desolation.

The one who mocks at the reality of the presence of God in Christ and denies Him headship is the Anti-Christ (Feminism at Skyfeast.org). The abomination of desolation today is a deliberate attempt in that direction.  The equality culture, also known as democracy, feminism, same-sex marriage, or trinity, of the west is really an apostate culture. It does not figure in the culture and faith entrusted to the Church.

The denial of headship comes in subtle ways. If man is generally not given headship in the family by his wife, the Anti-Christ has in effect, struck a blow on the microcosm & foundation of society, which is ordered by God. Today, the Anti-Christ has demolished the structure that God has put in place where Christ is head over man and man head over woman and God head over Christ Himself (1 Corinthians 11:3). For this reason, let alone the 1776 American Declaration of Independence (which announced the not-so-self-evident truth that “all men are created equal”),  the “co-equal” doctrine of the Trinity as well, is not only adjudged as trash but also declared: an aspect of this abomination. I commend the article on Priase-the-Lord vs. Abba Akbar/Elyon to you, dear Church leader. As we see the degeneration evident in western society today, Christianity is being swallowed up by secular humanism so much so that instead of the Church–His Bride/Wife–being subject to Christ, it has become “being subject to one another,” supposedly justified by Eph5:21. Note: “Haughty eyes” is listed #1 in the list of seven evils, which are an abomination to God (Proverbs 6:16-19). The word is always used in the Bible in the evil sense of “arrogant, disdainful and setting oneself above others”; it is often set in contrast to being humble & submissive. Do check out the article on Feminism–A Spirit of the Anti-Christ. It has placed everyone in level plane with God Himself, denying Him the honour, custom, tax or fear that is due to Him. For, in this scenario, there are neither Apostles, Prophets, Teachers nor anyone in rank. When Christ said, “regard each other as brothers and sisters,” His intention was that we, who are in authority, should cultivate a Servant’s Heart as we serve.  It is not intended for those who are being served to usurp the authority.

Those who are in league with people of such culture, even sympathizers, are of the Anti-Christ. Today, there have been many deliberate attempts made to mock and deny the reality of God’s presence in the people of God. These are ABOMINATIONS OF DESOLATION spoken of by the Lord Jesus Christ. They will all likewise perish.

As for the “coequal” doctrine of the Trinity, as i said, is not only trash but also an aspect of the Abomination of Desolation.

Woman per biology & per scripture, is the weaker vessel (1Pet3:7). A 50/50 partnership only leads to deadlocks. True love is not possible between equals.

God = Love (1Jn4:8), or to be more explicit,  God = Spirit = Word = Love (Jn1:1; 4:24; 1Jn4:8). God is NOT Light, which is merely one aspect of the GLORY of God (cf. 2Cor4:4-6; 1Cor11:6-9). The Imago Dei (Image of God) is Love, in order to be a “representative ruler” on earth for God. Love is a coin with two sides: Love (heads) & Respect (tails) — Eph5:22-33. However, as we know, heads & tails are not equal (Luke20:24-25). You see, we cannot place the giver and the receiver on equal plain. It is my understanding that she is lower in rank than man and NOT merely complementary to him. Biology declares it. Nonetheless, because we do love our women, we acknowledge these are hard facts for women-in-general, who are unavoidably neck-deep in the feminism of the world. Let the godly women, who believes the Word of God to be true accept it gracefully; even delight in inequality as an “erotic necessity,” as Mrs. Naomi Mitchison put it. C.S. Lewis quotes Mrs. Mitchison, who speaks of women so fostered on a defiant idea of equality that the mere sensation of the male embrace rouses an undercurrent of resentment. Marriages are thus shipwrecked. The high heals we see today are a sign of such usurping.

(See a solution for usurpation: Unique homes made of Living Stones.)

God too illustrates this by placing lizards in many of our homes. When the tail gets severed, both tail and head have life in themselves. Shortly though, the tail dies but the head goes on to live growing a new tail. You as a woman may say, “I am the body, not the tail.” But that’s not the point. Why this curse? The sin of Eve was greater than that of Adam. It was the “woman, who being deceived, fell into transgression [of not only disobeying God but also trying to take the lead]” (1Tim2:14). I am now not sure if this verse speaks of even dignity and worth in the eyes of God as being lower than that of man or simply, “unique dignity.” I was earlier sure of that. It took same-sex trash to wake us up. You see, just as same-sex couples, who BTW are also human beings, do not enjoy same dignity & worth with heterosexuals, likewise women’s station in life, i believe, is due to sin of her ancestors (Romans1:26-27; Exodus20:5). Therefore, Paul reasons and says that it is she and not the man who should be submissive (1Tim2:11-14). “And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.” (1Tim2:14). That is why God placed her below, even inferior (to set things straight) or “weaker-vessel” (1Peter3:7). Please don’t make me your enemy for telling the truth, which many hide. Its the truth that sets a person free. But by God’s grace, woman’s biology lends itself to being submissive.

But my friends, please understand that we are placing our own dignity at stake when we touch on this sensitive subject because it is now very fashionable to admit woman into leadership positions. As for us, we are not ashamed of the Gospel. And the woman of God is undeterred, for we do honor our woman as “co-heirs with us of the grace of life” (1Pet3:7).

It is because the Church has not drawn clear lines, that today we see in the now demoted western culture the same-sex trash along with the abomination that causes desolation.

Man =/= Woman. They are different.

Read:  What’s the Difference? by John Piper. From what i understand from his views, unfortunately John hesitates to share the whole counsel of God and places woman and men merely in complementary relationship, yet equal. That is understandable, given that he lives among a people who, as i said, are neck-deep in feminism.

Now, are all mammals equal because they are all mammals? Just as all mammals are warm-blooded, yet different, man & woman are both human, yet different. Of course, both are human and in essence created in the image of God. But we cannot say, women are NOT inferior to men. It is like saying: god = man because in essence they are same per imago Dei (Gen 1:26, 27). But God =/= man. We know that. Likewise, the one made from clay and the one made from the rib of that clay is not equal. We see in the fact that it is Adam that receives the command by God about what to eat (Gen2:16-17); he is presented with the woman (Gen2:22); he is the one who names her Eve (Gen2:23); her name comes from him (Gen3:20); and she comes from him (Gen2:23). To acknowledge this fact that woman came from man is fundamentally a belief of what the Bible says. Therefore, for some fashionable society to say that woman and man are equal do not believe the Bible and therefore are not Christians to begin with.

We acknowledge that these beliefs do divide.

No doubt, both God & man are eternal (Matt25:34,41). For that matter, we cannot say God == man. Just as there is a category for all living beings, and then for animals, and then for warm-blooded animals, there is this category for humans as well. Biology!  I am just logically reasoning here, not degrading women. All Indians are citizens of India, therefore, are they all equal? All humans are citizens of the earth, therefore are they all equal? If so, then people here in India must have equal rights as those in the USA, to stand for Presidential elections there, for instance. Notwithstanding.

Check out this short video by Costanza Miriano.

If you are equal to, say, your boss in office, you too would be boss, but not necessarily in the same company. But you are inferior to your boss and therefore a subordinate. Your boss, yourself and that fly in your office are all animals, who BTW, are doing different functions. Does that mean they are equal? Let’s be honest now. You are inferior and therefore subordinate functionally; not the other way around (subordinate and therefore inferior).

I do acknowledge that there have been grave excesses done in the past by aristocrats and today maintained by capitalists. But history is clear: Satan targeted Eve because she is a weaker/inferior vessel. That they are given lesser wages in the market is not without reason. As i write in the article on Feminism, rule by woman is a curse of God (Isa3:12).

Because all mammals are warm-blooded ESSENTIALLY, does it mean neither dog nor rat is inferior to man? My dog thinks he too deserves the air-conditioner. We are both warm-blooded, ESSENTIALLY. Does it follow that i let Sparky (my dog) sleep with me in bed? Therefore, it is correct to say husbands are men, essentially; and our wives are women, essentially. No doubt they are both human and do enjoy being co-heirs with Christ of the grace of life. But what we are trying to do here is draw lines and these lines are going to virtually cut many people and they are not going to like it. But a prophet must speak what God wants him to speak, not what the itching ears want to hear. Costanza Miriano nails it when she says: “Woman need, and ought to demand Different Rights; not the same rights as men.”

It all boils down to what rights men have and what rights women have, and also for that matter, what rights dogs have. Inferiority entails subordination. Otherwise, my wife would be head and i would be tail, as is the case with some cursed families. Wives are no less human, just as dogs are no less mammal. Husbands and wives are as mammal as dogs are. It does not follow then that husbands, wives and dogs should have equal rights. So you see, it all boils down to Rights. And Sis. Costanza is right on!

Same-sex couple’s “chemistry” is meant to be appalling (Stop making it otherwise!) in order to strengthen straight couple’s chemistry. As to why them, is not beyond understanding. Scripture is clear. The Ten Commandments from supreme Father God, who trumps all, including the Lord Jesus Christ, says that the sin of the parents is carried down (inherited) to the third and fourth generation (Exodus 20:5). No doubt there are exceptions to this rule.

So there is such a thing as Station in Life (Eph4:7NIV). We must be faithful to what God has dished-out to us. Even astrologically, we could be born with excessive pride, for instance, but we must re-form and transform ourselves. Humble ourselves. Be Born Again! As Sis. Joyce Meyer puts it: “Humility is power under control.” In due time, God will lift us up. This applies at all levels in society. Like a true statesman, Billy Graham: “There is no doubt that nations come to an end when they have ceased to fulfill the function that God meant for them.” God’s Justice is James4:6, seconded by 1Peter5:5. Therefore, the meek, the lowly, the poor in spirit, the humble, will inherit the earth (Christocratic New World Order of Matt5:3ff). But sadly the world for its sake is ascribing too much weight to humanity, a sort of “tyrannical anthropocentrism,” when dealing with what rights people ought to have. Not EQUAL rights; but DIFFERENT rights, is the way to go! As Pope Francis puts it, “the value proper to each creature.”

Should it be Praise-the-Lord or ABBA-AKBAR (آبا اكبر)/Abba Elyon עליון?

May God open the world’s eyes to Abba Akbar/Elyon!

Surely we don’t want animals seeking equal rights. Do we?

So beware of yet another “broad road” within the narrow, namely, the cult of Trinity, a.k.a Democracy, Feminism, or Same-sex trash.

Where there is no recognition of these hard facts, when the conscience has been abused into silence, there can be no salvation, no sanctification, and therefore no real emancipation for women or homosexuals, or for that matter, trinitarians or any other kind of equality seekers.

Regarding fleeing out of Judea/Praise/Protestant/USA…

If not the sure “abomination of desolation” in the eyes of God, voting for Hillary Clinton would merely be fashionable, nothing more. Out of the two, Trump would be my candidate only by virtue of his humble state of having acknowledged his sinfulness and depravity. Therewith, citizens will be in a position and capacity to demand accountability and reporting from him. This is the basic requirement sought in him if not the other virtues. But if the statement, “to ask forgiveness from God is unnecessary” was actually stated by him, who is also unwilling to be transparent regarding his tax information, then you have the perfect scenario/situation for an intervention of God or a strike from Him, requiring fleeing out of Judea to the spiritual (?) mountains, because both candidates are unfit to be president (world leader i.e. King of kings–the purview of Christ) for the reasons stated.

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Arminian Ethic & Wedleases

The Washington Post proposal on this subject has surely opened a can of worms.

As a teacher, who will be judged more severely, i take upon this subject with fear and trembling. The following analysis is just to begin the discussion and should not be construed as definitive.

A partner is either a blessing or a lesson in a person’s life that God has placed. A blessing is an encouragement to continue while a lesson is suggestive of a termination.

The crime of disrespect/lack of love may not be grounds for capital punishment as some expect to happen. God gives a second chance as He does with teeth.

Women lose their virginity after the wedding and will be the losing partners in the non-renewal of wedleases. Women will also be the bigger losers as they will not possess the graces that they once did. Shame is the intensely painful feeling they would have of believing they are flawed and therefore unworthy of love and belonging. Therefore, a divorce rather than the convenience of a wedlease seems more appropriate.

But divorce has become something of a stigma among churchgoers, so much so that the wronged party–the victim–is seen as the evil one and demonized when they ask for a divorce. Verses like “‘I hate divorce,’ says the Lord,” are invoked. And the married life, if there is one at all, goes on as a bondage rather than as a blessing.

People’s character changes and some take wedlock as a license to sin as do many a Calvinist, who believes once-saved-is-always-saved.

The relationship between a husband and his wife is likened to the relationship Christ has with His Church (Eph5:23-33). Dr. John Piper agrees that God sets aside corporate election of Israel for the sake of the election of individuals from around the world, is after the fact. What this means to a marital relationship is that there is no such thing as permanence or unconditional love. Eternal security exists only as long as the fish remains in water.

Is it not a good testimony when people renew their vows like Ram & Sita upon the expiry of a wedlease that maybe in place? Opportunity should be given to good couples to stand out in the midst of darkness. But we are not to create darkness for darkness sake. The context of an expired wedlease could exist for the renewal of vows to have any import or meaning. With a renewed wedlease, a marriage has the groundswell for happiness.

“What God has joined together, let no man separate,” holds true. But the prerogative for marriage, divorce or the establishment of a workable wedlease is with Christ, whom the Church possesses.

Children are not a side to the whole issue. Women are actually saved through childbearing (1Tim2:15). As for men, they should take responsibility for the children and not shrug from it. At this point, it seems to me that divorce, however smearing it maybe to one’s character, is the only viable instrument that society can afford to have. The Arminian freewill of renewing vows–if not a wedlease–in the context of a possible divorce, would be the only demonstration and assertion of love on the part of the husband, and respect on the part of the wife.